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RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product



Title: Re: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

I am not an expert on commodities but I’ll try to answer some questions.

 

First of all, we don’t have to use the same underlyer every time. In some case may be a future, in some others it could be an index, on any other underlyer defined in FpML.

 

In the situations where the underlyer is an index (or can be represented as an index), you’d use the index underlyer.

 

<underlyer>

                <singleUnderlyer>

                                <index>

                                                <instrumentId instrumentIdScheme="http://www.nymex.com/coding-scheme/instrument-id">GO_0.5_SING</instrumentId>

                                                <description>Singapore Index</description>

                                                <exchangeId>NYMEX</exchangeId>

                                </index>

                </singleUnderlyer>

</underlyer>

 

As for the non-standard currency payment, you could use the fxFeature within the FloatingPriceLeg to represent a quanto or composite.

 

In terms of the commodity underlyer, is there anything else needed to represent physicals??? If not, we could broad the definition to include them.

 

Best regards,

-Marc

 


From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph, Rosh
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:55 PM
To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

 

In the BarCap1.GasBasisSwap.TradeCreated example and if we were to use an underlying of a future, how would we then represent an EFS?

 

Also I noticed that the "Commodity" has been introduced as a new underlyer which in the comments describes it as a "listed commodity contract". If so, how would we represent an index-based location and, although not in the case of the swap but for other tradables, will this underlyer also be used to represent physicals?

 


From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Whiting, Elaine
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:46 PM
To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

I'm not a techie but will try to assist on interpretation. Where exactly are you seeing this? Marc, can you assist too please?

Regards,
Elaine


----- Original Message -----
From: commwg@xxxxxxxx <commwg@xxxxxxxx>
To: commwg@xxxxxxxx <commwg@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu Apr 12 20:41:47 2007
Subject: RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group -  the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

I had mentioned concerns from the examples that were included regarding the use of "future" within the leg representations and in a more recent email asked how a particular index swap with non-standard currency payment be handled. As I'm not an FpML expert I was hoping to get some response on this but received no reply on either.

Regards,
Rosh


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        From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Irina Yermakova
        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 7:41 PM
        To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product
       
       

        Yes, that is correct, Commodity Swap Product will be published in 4.3 WD2 at the beginning of next week.

        

        Regards,

        Irina

        ________________________________

                From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Whiting, Elaine
        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:38 PM
        To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

        

        Irina circulated this and we have requested feedback and comments on several occasions. Irina/Marc - please confirm the latest status (I believe from Marc that it is due to be included in the latest Working Draft of Version 4.3?)

        

        Thanks,
        Elaine

        

        

        

        ________________________________

                From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph, Rosh
        Sent: 12 April 2007 17:36
        To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

        But don't we need to wrap up the swap definition first, if we want to submit the definition soon.

        Regards,

        Rosh

                

                ________________________________

                                From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Whiting, Elaine
                Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 5:19 PM
                To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
                Subject: RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

                At present no - I am hoping that people are going to submit some examples of Options trades as requested so that we can kick off on Phase 2.

                Regards,
                Elaine

                

                ________________________________

                                From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joseph, Rosh
                Sent: 12 April 2007 17:04
                To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
                Subject: RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

                Are we still set for Friday 13th?

                Regards,

                Rosh

                        

                        ________________________________

                                                From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Whiting, Elaine
                        Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 8:17 PM
                        To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
                        Subject: Re: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product

                        Provisionally next Friday 13 April, to be confirmed. However, we are keen to get some dialogue going on the group email as to review of the swaps schema, and also I still need people to send their example options docs for phase 2 please.
                       
                        Thanks,
                        Elaine
                       
                       
                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: commwg@xxxxxxxx <commwg@xxxxxxxx>
                        To: commwg@xxxxxxxx <commwg@xxxxxxxx>
                        Sent: Wed Apr 04 16:05:55 2007
                        Subject: RE: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group -  the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product
                       
                        Hi,
                        Just wanted to know when the next meeting to discuss the latest schema will be.
                       
                       
                        ________________________________
                       
                                From: commwg@xxxxxxxx [mailto:commwg@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Irina Yermakova
                                Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:04 PM
                                To: commwg@xxxxxxxx
                                Subject: FpML-Com ISDA FpML Commodities Working Group - the updated schema and documentation for Comm Swap Product
                                Importance: High
                              
                              
                       
                                All,
                       
                                Attached is the updated schema and revised documentation for Commodity Swap Product.
                       
                                Please, send your comments to the Group email address.
                       
                               
                       
                                Kind Regards,
                       
                                Irina Yermakova
                       
                               
                       
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