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FpML-EQD AP actions FW: FpML EQD WG Agenda 10:00 NYC / 14:00 LDN Fri 30 Oct 2009



#1 AP review usage of UnderlyingAsset re: Identified Currency Proposal

 

UnderlyingAsset is the base of the types listed below, which are all in the file "fpml-asset.xsd", where we need to consider the impact of the element UnderlyingAsset/currency changing to type IdentifiedCurrency as proposed

 

<xsd:complexType name="Deposit">

<xsd:complexType name="ExchangeTraded" abstract="true">

<xsd:complexType name="FxRateAsset"> // How does currency of asset relate to <quotedCurrencyPair> ?

<xsd:complexType name="Loan">

<xsd:complexType name="Mortgage">

<xsd:complexType name="MutualFund">

<xsd:complexType name="RateIndex"> // What sense does a currency have for a Rate Index ? I would expect Basis Point, or Percentage

<xsd:complexType name="SimpleCreditDefaultSwap"> // Currency of what ? credit name underlying the CDS ?

<xsd:complexType name="SimpleFra"> // What sense does a currency have for a Forward Rate Agreement ? I would expect Basis Point, or Percentage

<xsd:complexType name="SimpleIRSwap"> // Currency of Notional Amount ? Payoff Currency ?

 

I cannot see any adverse impact to using IdentifiedCurrency as proposed for any of these types

 

We should forward the questions I raise above to the relevant asset class Working Groups

 

 

#2 AP review Dividend Settlement Currency question raised by TA

 

"During the 2009 Interdealer SS discussions, the recommendation was that <currencyReference> could point to a relevant element elsewhere, so that SettlementCurrency and IssuerPaymentCurrency as determinationMethod scheme values were not necessary.

 

(This also relates to the question of ambiguity as to what the <currency> element signifies – e.g. reference currency or settlement currency.)

 

Now I have confirmed, during discussions relating to another implementation, that the dividend payment currency could be different from the underlier’s native currency or the settlement currency. (A common example given is HSBC stock listed in London - the underlier currency is GBP, may be settled in EUR, and the dividends will then be paid in HKD.)

 

So for the currencyReference to point to such currency, it has to exist somewhere but currently it is not explicitly defined in any Swap MCA. (As an aside, FpML wise dividendPayment under singleUnderlyer/dividendPayout contains <currency> but it cannot be specified independently of <amount>.)

 

If my above understandings are correct, I feel the simplest solution to this is again to have SettlementCurrency and IssuerPaymentCurrency as determinationMethod scheme values. So we don’t need to know what the actual currency is."

 

Q1. "...ambiguity as to what the <currency> element signifies"

A1. We are using a model where the position of the element has significance, in this case within <dividendConditions>

which are clearly documented as 

 

<xsd:element name="dividendConditions" type="DividendConditions" minOccurs="0">

  <xsd:annotation>

    <xsd:documentation xml:lang="en">Specifies the conditions governing the payment of the dividends to the receiver of the equity return. With the exception of the dividend payout ratio, which is defined for each of the underlying components.</xsd:documentation>

  </xsd:annotation>

</xsd:element>

 

giving the mean "curreny of dividend payment to the receiver of the equity return"

 

Q2. "I feel the simplest solution to this is again to have SettlementCurrency and IssuerPaymentCurrency as determinationMethod scheme values. So we don’t need to know what the actual currency is"

Q2. Understood, also consider that the IdentifiedCurrency proposal ( above ) supports use of <currencyReference> if desired, as it provides an identified currency to reference

 

From: Andrew P Parry
Sent: 27 October 2009 14:53
To: fpml eqdwg (eqdwg@xxxxxxxx)
Subject: FpML EQD WG Agenda 10:00 NYC / 14:00 LDN Fri 30 Oct 2009
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* Agenda

 

1. Action items from our last meeting 14:00 LDN Fri 16 Oct 2009

 

AP review usage of UnderlyingAsset re: Identified Currency Proposal

AP review Dividend Settlement Currency question raised by TA

RM gather DTCC view on FpML-4-7 and FpML-4-8 release dates

 

2. Master Confirmation Annex Type scheme

 

Please see the email sent by AP to the group on Tue 27 Oct 2009 which responds to IY questions

 

3. Proposed Oracle Representative, Venkat Krishnamurthy

 

Please see the email AP forwarded to the group on Tue 27 Oct 2009  

 

4. ISDA Legal Drafting

 

5. NY Fed OTC Commitments

 

6. AOB

 

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