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ID Category Severity Reproducibility Date Submitted Last Update
0000761 [FpML] Loans major always 2008-07-08 20:27 2008-07-08 22:20
Reporter mgratacos View Status public  
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Priority normal Resolution open  
Status new Target Version Product Version 4.4 Second Trial Recommendation 2008-06-27
Summary 0000761: Loan payment structures lack [payer|receiver]PartyReferences
Description payment structures lack [payer|receiver]PartyReferences (interestPayment, feePayment) - so it is questionable whether the model meets the FpML principle of party neutrality.

Harry McAllister (BNPParibas)
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mgratacos (administrator)
2008-07-08 21:33

In my opinion, the principle of party neutrality relates to the fact that a processing system doesn't have to look at the sender/receiver of the message in order to figure out the direction of the payment.

I am not a loan expert but I assume that in the loan notices the direction of the payment is defined by the role that the party, whether it's an agent bank or borrower,...
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katirabh (developer)
2008-07-08 22:20

The direction of the payment is implicitly apparent from the message structure, which defines the business event.

However, once we created the notice structures in Phase 1, it became apparent that a new more generic payment/cash flow structure needed to be introduced. It is planned that this structure can be "attached" to all notices and will contain a generic payer/payee, cash flow structure.

The cash flow structure will also contain references back to the underlying business event(s) (one or more).

The new cash flow structure it to be introduced in Phase 2 (FpML v4.5).

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2008-07-08 20:27 mgratacos New Issue
2008-07-08 20:31 mgratacos Description Updated
2008-07-08 21:33 mgratacos Note Added: 0001628
2008-07-08 22:20 katirabh Note Added: 0001629
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